Upon further research the cloaks in musketeers would be casaques (or cassocks or mandilions from some sources). They show up relitively rarely in art though there’s one in Hendrick Pot’s a merry company at a table for example, which is from 1630.
Perhaps more relivently for my purposes reconstructing history have a pattern – not entirely sure I need one if I can size it correctly by myself but someone else might find it useful if they find this post
they still look a different colour in every single shot though…
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