Something that was supposed to be kind of a sketch but really got out of hand and is now a fully fledged thing lmao (from that one panel where they asked matt what voiceline he’d like his character to have :))
Pretty much all of Moira’s interactions with McCree involve her putting him down in some way – though always with the ‘plausible deniability’ of a joke, or teasing or ‘oh no that wasn’t sarcastic I promise’. Coupled with her conversations with Gabriel which come off as you say as putting pressure on him or getting under his skin or even sucking up to him in a ‘i understand you, I’m on your side’ way. It could be possible she’s trying to drive a wedge between the two of them, as a longer term goal and going in for the kill when they are arguing by trying to exacerbate that argument.
(Gabriel playing up the ‘I lost my temper’ angle so Moira doesn’t twig he’s clocked her and Jesse (probably inadvertently) helping him do that because Gabe predicted his reaction perfectly is a great idea btw)
These are great points, especially the part about Gabe trying to “joke around like usual” so that Moira doesn’t clue in to what’s happening.
He’s stuck – if he ousts her then and there, it is almost certain his team will die. He has no healer for McCree and Genji other than her. He can heal himself, but slowly/in small doses. If he says anything that makes her know that he suspects her, Moira will leave/flee. He does all that he can to play his “rogue, renegade” operative act (which…hmm, sounds like what he “becomes” as Reaper), all while trying to let Moira think she’s totally “getting to him.”
ooh yeah, it’s totally the same angle he’s playing as Reaper.
The more I think about this the more I’m impressed by how much he’s handling at once here cause he’s managing Moira and her not figuring it out, McCree and his reaction (while also using it to help convince Moira, cause he also needs Jesse to stay calm enough to shoot straight, so he tests the water with some jokes and subtle reminders that they trust each other – and more directly with stuff like “you should know by now I’d ever lead you wrong” etc) and…tbh I’m not sure how his interactions with Genji help him here he basically needs Genji to keep killing things, which he’ll probably do anyway without Gabe bringing up his brother and annoying him seems kind of a risky move, but still. And obviously the more direct keeping people from getting shot things that’ll get people killed as well.
1) The wording in her Hero Profile is just vague enough to imply she is a Talon agent at the time of the Retribution mission.
“The shadowy Talon organization had already been supporting her for years, aiding her experiments in exchange for utilizing the results for their own purposes.”
2) Moira’s interactions with Reyes during the Retribution point to her egging him on, pressuring him, or attempting to “get under his skin”. The most notable one involves Moira saying she wishes she could go to rhe masquerade (of Venetian Carnival). Reyes says he is surprised because she doesn’t seem like the kind of person to enjoy that.
Moira replies, “There are a lot of things you don’t know about me.”
3) The major bosses utilize technology or “enhancements” that are originally from Overwatch agents.
The Heavy Assault Tank: uses Rocket Charge. Originally from the Crusaders. Canonically used by Reinhardt in animated shorts and comics.
The Assassin: uses what appears to be Blink and/or Recall. The chronal accelerator technology was specifically made for Tracer by Winston. If this is true about the Assassin, it also severely limited the time range of Retribution. Canonically appears in multiple shorts and comics (by Tracer).
The Sniper: uses a form of Shadowstep and/or Wraith. Canonically appears in multiple shorts and comics by Reaper.
The last one is the most interesting because it is unique to Reyes and his biotic “enhancements” that he accrued during SEP.
However –
There is one other person who has access to Reyes’ biodata – and the technical knowledge and ability to manipulate and recreate that in other ways (Biotic Grasp, Fade) – to make new technologies, enhancements, and abilities out of that.
Moira.
4) Related to Point 3, Moira has canonically stolen technology from Mercy. We are also told by Geoff Goodman during Moira’s Blizzcon panel that she took Wraith from “Reaper” and “improved” it. Moira has no qualms about taking other people’s research, property, or abilities and then redesigning or reworking them for her own purposes.
5) Moira is the only person who appears HAPPY during the intro video. The later statements she makes where she tells Reyes that he did the right thing by killing Antonio are shady as all hell.
Both of these appeared to be “coincidentally” tied to the sudden rise of Vialli and Maximilien, and Akande overthrowing Akinjide in the wake of Antonio’s death. This becomes significantly less “coincidental” if you consider that Moira may be a Talon agent, or be getting financial support from one (or all) of them.
6) During Reyes’ debriefing with Morrison, Amari, and Lacroix, there are images of two Talon operatives – a Trooper and a Heavy Assault tank.
The third image is of Moira.
(Comparison image)
Remember, Blackwatch continues to operate while suspended. Whatever occurs between Gabe, Jack, Ana, and Gérard during Gabe’s Retribution debriefing isn’t enough to make him leave, nor enough to make McCree leave in the immediate aftermath. Both Gabriel Reyes and Jesse McCree go on to help the Overwatch Strike Team by recovering intel on Null Sector during Null Sector’s Uprising. Genji stays on the team as well, and eventually helps arrest Akande Ogundimu, who is now the third Doomfist.
However, we do not know what happens to Moira after Retribution.
Speculation/Guess: in my opinion, the entire Retribution mission – and Gabriel’s motivations – make considerably more sense if you look at it like this:
The mission WAS intended to grab Antonio, run, and interrogate him later. It does not seem like Gabriel was lying here. In fact, MCCREE originally wanted to kill Antonio, but is told by Gabriel that they’re not going to do that.
However, Antonio reveals: 1) that he was anticipating this move by Blackwatch, 2) that he expected his “friends” to help him walk free from Blackwatch a week later, and 3) that he expected to hurt Blackwatch/Overwatch again.
This is the moment when Gabriel realizes –
He’s been betrayed by one of the three Blackwatch agents in the room with him.
(Note who else is “in frame” but out of focus during this moment).
This is not a sudden turn-about in motivations by Gabriel Reyes –
But instead, the clear and distinct realization that he has walked right into Antonio’s (and Talon’s) grasp.
And letting Antonio live is the LEAST of his worries.
The far bigger threat is the person IMMEDIATELY behind him.
And she knows it too.
In addition:
Pretty much all of Moira’s interactions with McCree involve her putting him down in some way – though always with the ‘plausible deniability’ of a joke, or teasing or ‘oh no that wasn’t sarcastic I promise’. Coupled with her conversations with Gabriel which come off as you say as putting pressure on him or getting under his skin or even sucking up to him in a ‘i understand you, I’m on your side’ way. It could be possible she’s trying to drive a wedge between the two of them, as a longer term goal and going in for the kill when they are arguing by trying to exacerbate that argument.
(Gabriel playing up the ‘I lost my temper’ angle so Moira doesn’t twig he’s clocked her and Jesse (probably inadvertently) helping him do that because Gabe predicted his reaction perfectly is a great idea btw)
The more I play retribution the more I want to know what happens next…
Done with ana and recompiled all three into a master post. :3
I’m really happy with how they turn out and it’s so much fun painting this three neon colourful babes! Subconsciously chose a cmyk theme for this trio. And I finally get to paint ana! She’s one of my faves but I realised I haven’t drawn her yet. X’D
Was abit worried about her since I rarely ever paint ladies, (like once in a blue moon)… so am glad she came out alright! Also jus like ta thank those that pop by for the Ana stream! It was my first time streaming! ❤
And this sums up the entire series! Thanks for loving them! (❁´▽`❁)*✲゚*
dedicated to london weather and my excitement to play uprising. I wasn’t playing this time last year. trying something out with the background…
Blackwatch don’t have a shield tank so Jesse isn’t so lucky:
Also retribution hype! (I want to draw something for it but I got this done on some time off so we’ll see and I need to actually play it. but, like, blackwatch lore)