tacticalgrandma:

fearlessstateofmind replied to your postPeople: Route 66 got a cosmetic update which means…

Like I love mccree and want a short but this is a really good point. Something that frustrates me a lot about overwatch’s storytelling is the lack of follow up or pay off. A McCree short would be a good way to follow up on retribution an ana (or ana and pharah) short is a good way to follow up on her origin story and letter and such from even longer ago

I guess it’s just like– yeah it would be good follow up for McCree, but idk why he gets even more follow up when so many characters haven’t even started? I thought the Shrike posters might indicate a Pharah-centric short where she reconnects with Ana, giving Pharah the first actual coverage since her release comic and resolving a major question for both those characters. McCree’s had a comic focused on him, was a major character in the Retribution comic, was the literal narrator of an entire event, had a part in the Uprising comic– it’s just kind of frustrating.

For your comment about zen and Lucio: yes! I did think another strong contender for a short at blizzcon would be Lucio (and probs symm) + a Rio map (similar the the Dva+Busan release of course) there have been a bunch of interesting voicelines about that recently too. The ‘no map announcement but are working on one’ statement means that could still work I think but it might be less likely idk?

I do think either a McCree or Pharah short would do a lot more for the games lore overall – or their storylines do in general and getting them more actually started up is a good thing. They have the most non-personal narrative potential of basically any characters (and their personal storylines are also really good potential). They have a lot of connections to other characters across a lot of different factions and interesting relationships with those characters, some of those overlap because they know each other but they are good compliments/foils to each other as well, they are both this middle generation which works well, and hit a lot of the overarching themes overwatch seems to be going for.

Between the two of them McCree is slightly better connected/has some more complex relationships to other characters but Pharah is the bridge between ex-overwatch and the non-overwatch heroic cast – so they have different strengths to their stuff. (The idea of a short that involves more characters actually becoming connected in the present day would also be great).

The real problem here is that in order to provide follow up on just these three things in shorts form (which is I guess what we’ve got as comics don’t seem to be happening anymore for some reason) at the current rate would take until next November and during that time we’d have another 10+ major questions raised by voicelines or character intros or etc. The pace of teasing/intial intro to interesting lore well outstrips actually hearing that lore and it stacks up and that’s an issue.

Like a year and a bit ago before I’d played the game my emotions towards overwatch were basically “eh I don’t really follow/play it but I have a real soft spot for the cowboy”

And boy did I set myself up for this current situation once I actually have the game where I’m cosplaying this weekend and then debating how bad an idea it is to watch blizzcon opening ceremony at 3am when I have to get a train at 8am the weekend after

Overwatch speculation that’s really more ‘i wonder if blizzard will release more lore for the rest of the year’ than anything else.

I still really want to see some follow up/what happened next to retribution, I think it’s…reasonably likely with some wishful thinking we might get something at the end of the event/close to that that’s either:

Mccree continuing his ‘thats where it all started to go wrong’ narration from the end of the event talking about how it kept going wrong/why he left and why he stuck around after Venice (cause if they play what Gabriel’s doing straight Jesse stuck around a good long time out of hope/loyalty before he couldn’t take it anymore) and, probably guven the format of the latest shorts, whether he’s going to answer the recall and come back. And this would be a logical place to put this and continue their ‘answering recall’ shorts.

Or

The debrief dialogue from the trailer/teasers is from something larger and wasn’t only recorded for promotional stuff. If it’s this (and I almost think that’s more likely cause we may have already seen stuff that clues us in to it existing) I would think it would have some sort of ‘reveal’ in it that somewhat explain why although blackwatch goes under investigation (cause that ship has sailed) Gabriel seems to obtain some personal forgiveness and remain on good terms/technically operating blackwatch even though they are “suspended” by the time of uprising.

To my mind that’s either likely to be: figured out Moira is a spy and did the only thing he could to get them all out without her realising he’d sussed her (as laid out in @segadores-y-soldados great post here). Or. ‘moiras been helping me with this genetic stuff and I think a side effect is the urge to murder people’. I’m interested to see what they do over the event (I could see us getting a small debrief file off genji and Moira at the week/2 week mark if they were leading up to this)

Obvious third option: no more lore until next year’s archives event.

Things from the retribution voice lines datamining I really hope go together:

Moira: and here I thought we were supposed to be the quiet ones, next thing you know we’ll have Lieutenant Wilhelm on the team

McCree: We could use a tank

Reyes: I’m never going to hear the end of this am I?

McCree: I’m sure I’ll get over it eventually

Reyes: Good cause I’m going to need you, Jesse.

“Is it always like this?” “Yeah…”

Waiting for extraction

dedicated to london weather and my excitement to play uprising. I wasn’t playing this time last year. trying something out with the background…

Blackwatch don’t have a shield tank so Jesse isn’t so lucky:

Also retribution hype! (I want to draw something for it but I got this done on some time off so we’ll see and I need to actually play it. but, like, blackwatch lore)