annabunches:

thenonbinarysafespace:

Oh wow. That’s kinda shitty—

PSA though.

Ahh, so not only are neutral pronouns getting masculine defaults for relation terms (really, it should be sibling, child, spouse, etc), relation terms aren’t ACLed.

This raises the question: how would you ACL those relationship terms? I mean, you have to put something there; otherwise that would flag as suspicious. I suppose showing gender-neutral terms as described above for anyone who doesn’t have the ACL is the obvious solution, but even that could be strange. I can just see: “My profile says you’re my ‘child’, now. What’s up with that?”

Really the ideal seems to be that, for safety, some people shouldn’t know you’ve set a custom gender.

So the real solution here is to allow a user to set multiple custom genders, each with a separate ACL list. So you can have a public / family view gender, and then a ‘for friends I’m out to’ gender, at a minimum.

In the meantime, signal boost, because this is going to be non-obvious to a whole lot of people and doesn’t seem to be documented anywhere.

Another point that’s sort of related: (apparently) currently you can only see neutral pronouns/other custom gender related stuff of other people if you are veiwing in us english. If you have a custom gender it wont show up to people veiwing your page in a different language setting. What do they see pronoun wise?

the problem above should rectify when it becomes a thing in all languages (when is that happening? maybe hold off til then if someone you don’t want to be out to may be veiwing in a different language setting) but what seems to currently happen with the work round for neutral pronouns is you are sometimes listed as sister/daughter/etc and asometimes listed as brother/son/etc so it’s possible its doing that.

Passing it off as facebook fucking up should be relitively easy but in general don’t trust facebook with private infomation no matter what its about seems to be a good lesson