Being bad at a French (was it French? I’m half asleep) doesn’t indicate that McCree is bad at undercover work (for all we know, he botched the accent then to ‘lighten’ the mood) and I was wondering if you’ve picked up anything on what type of undercover work he did, or if he did any at all and if he was any good with them? I got an idea that hasn’t made it to the oven yet and I’m debating if I should stick it in there and see what happens or not.

freckledmccree:

It was Italian. Personally, I do think his Italian accent was truly unconvincing to begin with, which caused Moira to bring it up, but in that moment McCree very much leaned into the awful and butchered it worse than usual just to irritate her.

Besides the botched waiter cover, we don’t have any other indication of him doing undercover work, so it’s difficult to assess what his track record is. I have my own thoughts, but they’re not rooted in anything solid. May I add, he got fired from the cover job not for blowing his cover but because he lashed out at a rude patron who, apparently, stoked his temper and self-righteousness.

One can probably draw something about his skill with undercover work in the Morricone Theory, which if true necessitates that he pulled off a cover identity for years. But your mileage may vary.

I tend to think McCree worked reconnaissance, based on his work in “Uprising” and on how especially put out he seemed Blackwatch intel was “spotty” regarding the amount and type of resistance they would run into at Rialto. I think he was sent ahead of operations to set up surveillance systems, collect intelligence and other useful information, scout enemy defenses and forces, and get a lay of the situation, then report back with his findings and with that give his opinion on possible plans of action based on what he’s seen in the field.

How much this function required undercover work, I can’t say, though I imagine this at times involved light and brief work just to sneak through, set things up, do some observation to be successful. Again, your mileage may vary.

This makes a lot of sense – it’s the kind of work that neccesitates short-lived cover stuff to the tune of ‘yeah I’m supposed to be here’ but he only needs to do it briefly most of the time – and only really at times when he can’t do the recon work unseen (or as in uprising: just in uniform cause of the situation). Waitstaff and similar is a good way to a) get into back of house stuff for recon and b) transport stuff around a room/get near someone specific with plausible deniability. Jesse needs an excuse to get in a door occassionally he’s not running a long confidence game on someone to convince them he’s someone else I guess.

There’s a few ‘damn our intel was incomplete for this one’ lines from various people. But it’s Moira who makes a pointed comment about it and McCree responds a little defensively which fits with the rest of her constantly having a go at him/talking him down lines (and also falls into the blatently suspicious portion of her dialogue tbh).

Also: accent(/level of Italian) unconvincing if he was pretending to be Italian? Sure. Unconvincing as an American speaking Italian? Probably not – and theres no reason for him to pretend not to be that (he’s pretending not to be an undercover operative). And like speaking with an accent is actually fine! (Jesse probably gets enough stick for his accent is what’s presumably his first language – so him having a kind of stock answer to lean into what people don’t like about how he talks makes a whole lot of sense) plenty of people speak with an accent be that regional or because it’s their second language or whatever, this isn’t a problem. (I would assume ‘I learnt it from films’ is either kidding or Jesse is good enough at this stuff to pick up a passable level of a language from films – either is believable)

tacticalgrandma:

fearlessstateofmind replied to your postPeople: Route 66 got a cosmetic update which means…

Like I love mccree and want a short but this is a really good point. Something that frustrates me a lot about overwatch’s storytelling is the lack of follow up or pay off. A McCree short would be a good way to follow up on retribution an ana (or ana and pharah) short is a good way to follow up on her origin story and letter and such from even longer ago

I guess it’s just like– yeah it would be good follow up for McCree, but idk why he gets even more follow up when so many characters haven’t even started? I thought the Shrike posters might indicate a Pharah-centric short where she reconnects with Ana, giving Pharah the first actual coverage since her release comic and resolving a major question for both those characters. McCree’s had a comic focused on him, was a major character in the Retribution comic, was the literal narrator of an entire event, had a part in the Uprising comic– it’s just kind of frustrating.

For your comment about zen and Lucio: yes! I did think another strong contender for a short at blizzcon would be Lucio (and probs symm) + a Rio map (similar the the Dva+Busan release of course) there have been a bunch of interesting voicelines about that recently too. The ‘no map announcement but are working on one’ statement means that could still work I think but it might be less likely idk?

I do think either a McCree or Pharah short would do a lot more for the games lore overall – or their storylines do in general and getting them more actually started up is a good thing. They have the most non-personal narrative potential of basically any characters (and their personal storylines are also really good potential). They have a lot of connections to other characters across a lot of different factions and interesting relationships with those characters, some of those overlap because they know each other but they are good compliments/foils to each other as well, they are both this middle generation which works well, and hit a lot of the overarching themes overwatch seems to be going for.

Between the two of them McCree is slightly better connected/has some more complex relationships to other characters but Pharah is the bridge between ex-overwatch and the non-overwatch heroic cast – so they have different strengths to their stuff. (The idea of a short that involves more characters actually becoming connected in the present day would also be great).

The real problem here is that in order to provide follow up on just these three things in shorts form (which is I guess what we’ve got as comics don’t seem to be happening anymore for some reason) at the current rate would take until next November and during that time we’d have another 10+ major questions raised by voicelines or character intros or etc. The pace of teasing/intial intro to interesting lore well outstrips actually hearing that lore and it stacks up and that’s an issue.

simulatedstars:

fearlessstateofmind:

Like a year and a bit ago before I’d played the game my emotions towards overwatch were basically “eh I don’t really follow/play it but I have a real soft spot for the cowboy”

And boy did I set myself up for this current situation once I actually have the game where I’m cosplaying this weekend and then debating how bad an idea it is to watch blizzcon opening ceremony at 3am when I have to get a train at 8am the weekend after

we’re not staying up til 3 for blizzcon

(but i mean….. it’s so very very tempting)

😦

Like a year and a bit ago before I’d played the game my emotions towards overwatch were basically “eh I don’t really follow/play it but I have a real soft spot for the cowboy”

And boy did I set myself up for this current situation once I actually have the game where I’m cosplaying this weekend and then debating how bad an idea it is to watch blizzcon opening ceremony at 3am when I have to get a train at 8am the weekend after

New Antisemitism Monitoring Centre inundated with complaints about Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour

littlegoythings:

A new Antisemitism Monitoring Centre set up to record and process complaints relating to Jew-hate within Jeremy Corbyn’s party has received nearly 500 submissions just a week after it was launched.

The Jewish Labour Movement, which set up the centre, emailed its 2,000 members suggested there was a urgent need for the service because the Labour Party had allowed complaints of antisemitism to be “dismissed when reported, obfuscated when they entered the national press, and dragged on because that was politically easier”.

The launch of the centre – which is accessible to all Labour members regardless of whether or not they subscribe to JLM – will allow the organisation to build up a clear picture of what is happening across all areas of Mr Corbyn’s party.

The move comes amid fears that Labour’s own compliance unit, which is meant to investigate allegations of inappropriate conduct, is now operating on threadbare staffing levels following several departures in recent months.

The request to hear experiences of antisemitism in Labour is directed at either “victim or third-party observer” according to the email and JLM website. The group is also keen to learn of alleged instances of antisemitism from both Jewish and non-Jewish members of the Labour Party.

In a statement, the JLM said: “Throughout the past three years, the Jewish Labour Movement has engaged, in good faith, with the Labour Party to try to solve the severe and ongoing crisis of Labour antisemitism.

“This has included meetings at every level of the party, including the Leader’s Office, the General Secretary and many more. We are grateful to our allies in the Labour Party and across the Jewish community who have supported us throughout this time.

“By sharing your experiences of antisemitism within the Labour Party, you are enabling JLM to build a clear picture of what is happening within all parts of the party. We will use this information to help ensure that antisemitism is property addressed, and may need to share it with relevant parties.

“We will keep fighting to eradicate antisemitism from our party, and our society, but we need your help to do so.”

Anyone wishing to add their own experience of antisemitism within Labour can do so by completing the survey before October 26.

New Antisemitism Monitoring Centre inundated with complaints about Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour